WTB: Starter "Bass Trombone"

ttf_largobone · Post by **ttf_largobone** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:55 pm

I have a friend who plays saxophone looking to pick up the trombone, specifically bass trombone. A tenor w/F attachment is fine, budget is about $400, case and mouthpiece included if possible.

ttf_John McKevitt · Post by **ttf_John McKevitt** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:24 am

Normally there are good deals on Ebay for the Benge 165F and 190F
You might also check out the Blessing B88.
Look on Craigslist in you area and surrounding areas

ttf_largobone · Post by **ttf_largobone** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:29 am

I'm scouring Ebay right now, with plans to check Craigslist later. However, if I can find him a horn from a Forum member, I'll know that it'll be exactly as described and I'll be getting a good deal.

As of now, the horns I'd consider most are:

Tenor-Blessing B78 and B88; Bach 42 and Omega/200B; Yamaha 356, 446, 448, 548, 600 series; Olds A20 and S20 "Basses"; pretty much any large bore Holton and the 602F; Getzen 725 and 747; Benge 190 and 165; and Wessex

Bass-Bach 50B (single); Yamaha 321/322/421; Wessex; Mack; Conn 70H/71H/72H/etc.

ttf_wgwbassbone · Post by **ttf_wgwbassbone** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:36 am

A real Bass trombone for $400 will be very tough to find.

ttf_ghmerrill · Post by **ttf_ghmerrill** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:40 am

$400 is REALLY on (or off) the low end for a bass -- maybe depending on what you mean by "bass". Single valve? Double valve? A "real" bass, or just something he can play 3rd/bass parts with -- like a large bore tenor?

Anyhow, if looking for a genuine bass trombone in that price range (that will actually play), you might consider something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schiller-Trombone-/222639418319?hash=item33d657ebcf:g:xs0AAOSw~y9ZA2M5 -- and making a low ball offer on it. The price on it now ($550+shipping) is right about what retail price on it is. And it's unimproved/unmodified. They're not bad horns, and I like mine -- but I've modified it in a couple of ways.

Even for a decent playable large bore tenor, $400 is probably unrealistically hopeful. In addition to the other suggestions already provided, look at the Olds horns on Ebay, Craigslist, etc. An Ambassador with F attachment is typically within the $400 (or less) range, and sometimes you can find one of the better models as well.

ttf_John McKevitt · Post by **ttf_John McKevitt** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:43 pm

60's era Holton TR 380 on Ebay for $499 or Make an Offer.Single valve lrg bore Tenor

ttf_largobone · Post by **ttf_largobone** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:49 pm

Quote from: ghmerrill on Sep 10, 2017, 07:40AMAn Ambassador with F attachment is typically within the $400 (or less) range, and sometimes you can find one of the better models as well.

This is exactly what I'm looking for, I just figured I would rather get it from a forum member than eBay if someone were looking to get rid of one. I have several options on eBay lined up if no one is.

ttf_Posaunus · Post by **ttf_Posaunus** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:33 am

Quote from: largobone on Sep 10, 2017, 06:49PMThis [An Ambassador with F attachment] is exactly what I'm looking for, I just figured I would rather get it from a forum member than eBay if someone were looking to get rid of one. I have several options on eBay lined up if no one is.

Largobone,

I think you have us all confused with your floating definition of "bass trombone" - when you really would seem to be satisfied with any trombone with an F attachment. The Olds Ambassador A20 (with F-attachment) was actually termed a "student-quality bass trombone" back in the day (early 1950s). In fact, this rugged instrument was my first trombone! But with its small bore (0.510"/0.525") and very small-shank mouthpiece, no one in the 21st century would call this a "bass trombone." But for a high school saxophonist who wants to move up and learn to play the trombone, such an instrument could be quite suitable. He/she will learn not only how to play the trombone, but also how to use the F-attachment. Transition to a true large-bore bass trombone would then be an easy step.

ttf_LowrBrass · Post by **ttf_LowrBrass** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:17 am

Quote from: Posaunus on Yesterday at 12:33 AMLargobone,

I think you have us all confused with your floating definition of "bass trombone" - when you really would seem to be satisfied with any trombone with an F attachment.

People do seem confused. I'm not sure why. I think largobone was pretty clear.
"Bass trombone" in the title is in "quotes"
and in his first post, he very clearly states, "A tenor w/F attachment is fine."
My guess is that the friend wants to honk out some low notes, but needs to figure out how to play a trombone first.

ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:46 pm

Quote from: wgwbassbone on Sep 10, 2017, 07:36AMA real Bass trombone for $400 will be very tough to find.

ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:48 pm

A LARGE BORE B/F FOR 400 --IS PROSPEROUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!